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Justice served? – you decide

February 5, 2007
Consider these two cases.

A bloke who has been selling stolen perfume, thereby depriving a huge multinational company of even more money, is sent to prison for three and a half years. This is later reduced on appeal. He was also selling fake watches, which probably told the same time as their genuine, overpriced equivalents. The perfume had been stolen during an armed robbery.

A man admits downloading over 2,000 indecent images of young girls. That is over 2,000 victims of some form of sexual assault that is perpetrated in order to satisfy the desires of paedophiles. This man gets a two year supervision order and is put on the Sex Offenders Register for seven years.

What do you lot think?

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11 Comments leave one →
  1. Annette permalink
    February 5, 2007 15:41

    I,m sorry but you cannot compare the two crimes as they have nothing in common.
    However if you wanted to take them individually, the first one should never had his time reduced.
    The second one, well, he should have been locked up for a very long time.
    But you really cannot compare the two crimes.They are so different from each other.

  2. Anonymous permalink
    February 5, 2007 20:02

    I think that if the judges daughter was in one of the pictures, he would probably be campaining for the return of the death sentence.

  3. Jay permalink
    February 6, 2007 06:58

    It is not a case of comparing the two crimes. It is more a case of let the punishment fit the crime.
    As far as I’m concerned the sex offence should suffer the more severe sentence but as seems to be the case these days monetary loss is valued higher than a life.

  4. ExtraSpecialCopper permalink
    February 6, 2007 10:34

    The punishment should fit the crime

  5. BelfastPeeler permalink
    February 6, 2007 14:41

    There’s a report in my local paper of a man who tried to grope the crotch of a 6 year old girl. He has been convicted of 2 other indecency offences in the past.

    His punishment, 9 months suspended sentence and ordered to buy the girl a new bike “to cheer her up”

  6. Jay permalink
    February 6, 2007 21:25

    In reference to the comment by “belfastpeeler”. It makes you wonder what the legal system is teaching the little girl.
    “It’s alright to be groped by a dirty old man as long as you get a present afterwards”

  7. Suzy Hepworth permalink
    February 8, 2007 10:17

    To be honest Jay I think Annette has a point.

    Yes the paedophile should have been sent away for a long stretch, possibly being put through an unanaesthetised castration during that time.

    But the first guy was flogging nicked goods taken during an armed robbery – behaviour which perpetuates armed robberies is almost as bad as the robberies themselves – and what if it was someone you knew who had a gun/knife/baseball bat shoved in their face as they were trying to do their job? The idiot deserved a heavy sentence.

    What is really skewed about our criminal justice system and clogging up our prisons is the imposition of fines for stupid things like a lack of a TV licence on people who didn’t pay the TV licence because they couldn’t afford it. They then don’t pay the fine then get put away for non-payment thus screwing up the whole system.

    That’s ridiculous and something I see on a day to day basis in my job.

    Suze x

  8. Isabella Snow permalink
    February 10, 2007 03:18

    I think it’s sick.

    Just today I read an article that mentioned the country I live in (EU since 2004) permits the downloading/viewing of child pornography.

    You can’t create it here – but you can watch it whenever you like.

    Kind of makes you want to vomit, huh.

  9. blueknight permalink
    February 22, 2007 00:47

    What used to annoy us (when I was serving) was the Home Office would tell the Forces to prioritise certain crimes. A couple of years back it was car crime.
    So our local thief stole a car which he drove for several months, dangerously while trying to escape Police and he damaged it. He got bail for that and he stole another one which he drove dangerously, he did a few drive offs in it and tried to run over the pump attendant. He went shoplifting in a garage and threaten staff, he did a bulk shoplifting £100-200 worth, then I got him for another huge shoplifting, he filled a bin liner and bilked the taxi that had taken him on the shoplifting spree.
    He was remanded in custody and went to Court a month or two later. He has a record as long as your arm, but all he got was 4 months and as he had already been on remand, he was out within a couple of weeks, certainly before I got the file back to do the detections. What is the point of the Police prioritising certain crimes if no one else does?

  10. Anonymous permalink
    February 22, 2007 03:32

    If only the paedo had been a copper, he could have got off with an even lighter sentence, like Christopher John Snow, formerly of West Yorkshire.

  11. Donna permalink
    February 22, 2007 12:45

    The punishments do fit the crimes here, imho.

    The paedophile isn’t actully the one who harmed the child. He didn’t actually create the images. The title of “man made…” is off the mark.

    I don’t suport paedophilia in any way whatsoever, but he was not the one that harmed the child. He needs help, certainly, and the state should have taken the chance to make sure he gets it … The debate over whether people who have such compellings are helped or hindered by the presence/absence of controlled paedophilic exposure to pictures does not seem to be a debate which exists.

    Forget the short termism, it is the long term resolution to get the paedophiles off the habit that concerns me, or else preventing the actual abuse of children.

    Children don’t actually have to be harmed to produce images that could satisfy paedophilic impulses, remember, so theraputic artistic material can be created without doing any harm to anyone.

    Me? I’m a lover of bondage; doesn’t harm anyone; responsible adults involved only. Ask me why I have these feelings or what actions would remove these feelings from my natural behaviour patterns, and I wouldn’t be able to answer either question.

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