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Let’s have another pop at the police

November 7, 2006

Guess who?

Oh yes, the IPCC – for a change.

Apparently, deaths as a result of police contact are steadily rising – read the full story at the Beeb.

Here’s a small extract

IPCC chairman Nick Hardwick said it had been working on a system to try to reduce the deaths of those who become involved with police officers.

He said: “The IPCC would much rather prevent than investigate a death. Over the last year we have sought to reduce these figures in a number of ways.

Here’s a few ideas to help you out, Mr Hardwick.

1 Stop the police having to deal with suicidal people who are hell-bent on causing themselves injury. Instead, they can all go into hospital or NHS drop-in centres, or perhaps Social Services offices and kill themselves there. Ban the police from having anyone with a “Suicidal” or “Self Harm” marker in the cells and most of the problem will disappear.

2 Take away all our patrol cars, so we can’t be tempted into trying to keep up with the poor misunderstood car thief who is rampaging around an estate. That way, we can safely watch from a distance as they cause carnage, happy in the knowledge that we didn’t provoke them into driving at speeds way beyond their capabilities. Of course, you’ll have to change police discipline regulations and a few other laws, regarding neglect of duty and misfeasance, but at least we won’t need to phone the IPCC in the early hours of the morning to come and watch us extract a couple of dead burglars from a wrecked car.

3 Invent some magic bullets that stop armed criminals in their tracks, but don’t actually kill them. Better still, why don’t we send an IPCC investigator out with every ARV? They could then tell the officers if they think it would be a good idea to shoot the suspect. Of course, given the length of time it takes the IPCC to make a decision, the suspect would be long gone.

What Mr Hardwick needs is someone to give him a reality pill. We deal with some of the most vulnerable members of society with very little training and very poor facilities. We are expected to arrest violent and dangerous criminals for whom life has no value and who would not think twice about shooting their way out of custody.

And before someone bleats on about institutional racism, if you are a white male, you are more likely to die as a result of police contact than any other group. Here’s the figures.


94 of 118 cases were male
101 were White
Five were Asian
Seven were Black
Four were mixed race
One ‘any other ethnic group’

I’m surprised the IPCC didn’t try and put a block on our pay rise!

4 Comments leave one →
  1. Sergeant Says permalink
    November 7, 2006 18:45

    Good post……… I especially like the bit where the IPCC should travel round in ARV’s. That’s such a bloody good idea so they can have half a real idea of the circumstances that are faced, without the benefit of hindsight and particular political emphasis.

  2. gonorr permalink
    November 9, 2006 21:17

    Good one, prefer life with you lot around than without.

    Personally, if car thieves crash and die, I couldn’t give a hoot. Shame is they always hurt the innocent. Good call with the suicides/selfharm group.
    Care in the community?

    Nope, it’s not working.

    Out with the ARV’s?
    Would be nice if it happened, rather being judged from a nice warm office, with no stress, no fear and all the benifits of hindsight.

    Rant over.

  3. Anonymous permalink
    November 10, 2006 22:42

    How many of those have actually died as a ‘direct’ result of Police action or whilst in Police ‘Care’? That’s the problem with these figures. If someone wants to kill themselves whilst in custody, why should that be the Polices fault. Quite often they have ended up there due to the lack of help from doctor’s, social services etc. So why not include them in the figures as well to show that it was a ‘multi-agency’ related death and not just a ‘Police’ death.

    Why can’t the figures also be compare with the number of people who are arrested every year, or the national population. Is the % in relation to these staying the same, going up or going down?

    It’s like people complaining about the size of the prison population at present, when it’s the same amount of people who go to Old Trafford to watch Man Utd.

  4. Anonymous permalink
    November 21, 2006 16:05

    do like they do in china or like uncle fester from the adams family. shoot em in the back. (not the police, the villians)

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